August 29, 2019

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TXPR closed at 576.90, up 1.14% on the day. Volume was 4.29-million, highest of the past 30 days, dwarfing the 3.33-million recorded on each of the next two biggest trading days August 14 and August 15.

CPD closed at 11.52, up 1.14% on the day. Volume of 102,269 was at about the median of the context of the past 30 days.

ZPR closed at 9.15, up 1.10% on the day. Volume of 225,458 well above average but nothing special in the context of the past 30 days.

Five-year Canada yields were up 1bp to 1.19% today.

HIMIPref™ Preferred Indices
These values reflect the December 2008 revision of the HIMIPref™ Indices

Values are provisional and are finalized monthly
Index Mean
Current
Yield
(at bid)
Median
YTW
Median
Average
Trading
Value
Median
Mod Dur
(YTW)
Issues Day’s Perf. Index Value
Ratchet 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 2.0459 % 1,766.7
FixedFloater 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 2.0459 % 3,241.8
Floater 6.76 % 6.84 % 70,035 12.64 4 2.0459 % 1,868.3
OpRet 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 0.0420 % 3,371.3
SplitShare 4.67 % 4.53 % 61,596 4.07 7 0.0420 % 4,026.1
Interest-Bearing 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 0.0420 % 3,141.3
Perpetual-Premium 5.64 % -1.34 % 65,129 0.09 9 0.3361 % 2,971.1
Perpetual-Discount 5.52 % 5.65 % 64,361 14.42 25 0.4358 % 3,085.2
FixedReset Disc 5.91 % 5.66 % 161,252 14.31 66 1.6048 % 1,967.1
Deemed-Retractible 5.35 % 6.24 % 67,266 7.91 27 0.3197 % 3,073.9
FloatingReset 4.67 % 7.32 % 69,071 8.00 3 2.3651 % 2,275.4
FixedReset Prem 5.21 % 5.00 % 179,279 1.85 21 0.4265 % 2,559.3
FixedReset Bank Non 1.98 % 4.11 % 89,917 2.35 3 0.2088 % 2,662.9
FixedReset Ins Non 5.66 % 8.31 % 106,812 7.96 21 2.1747 % 2,035.3
Performance Highlights
Issue Index Change Notes
NA.PR.C FixedReset Disc 1.01 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 20.00
Evaluated at bid price : 20.00
Bid-YTW : 5.84 %
MFC.PR.R FixedReset Ins Non 1.04 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 23.36
Bid-YTW : 5.86 %
SLF.PR.A Deemed-Retractible 1.04 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 21.40
Bid-YTW : 6.67 %
BNS.PR.I FixedReset Disc 1.11 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 19.11
Evaluated at bid price : 19.11
Bid-YTW : 5.25 %
RY.PR.M FixedReset Disc 1.12 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 17.20
Evaluated at bid price : 17.20
Bid-YTW : 5.63 %
GWO.PR.S Deemed-Retractible 1.15 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 23.30
Bid-YTW : 6.12 %
TD.PF.B FixedReset Disc 1.16 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.50
Evaluated at bid price : 16.50
Bid-YTW : 5.46 %
NA.PR.E FixedReset Disc 1.17 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 18.11
Evaluated at bid price : 18.11
Bid-YTW : 5.56 %
CU.PR.G Perpetual-Discount 1.20 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 21.10
Evaluated at bid price : 21.10
Bid-YTW : 5.36 %
BAM.PF.A FixedReset Disc 1.25 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 17.82
Evaluated at bid price : 17.82
Bid-YTW : 6.27 %
BAM.PR.N Perpetual-Discount 1.27 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 19.99
Evaluated at bid price : 19.99
Bid-YTW : 6.06 %
PWF.PR.P FixedReset Disc 1.28 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 11.85
Evaluated at bid price : 11.85
Bid-YTW : 5.97 %
BMO.PR.S FixedReset Disc 1.32 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.92
Evaluated at bid price : 16.92
Bid-YTW : 5.43 %
BIP.PR.E FixedReset Disc 1.35 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 20.80
Evaluated at bid price : 20.80
Bid-YTW : 6.02 %
BAM.PR.M Perpetual-Discount 1.37 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 20.02
Evaluated at bid price : 20.02
Bid-YTW : 6.05 %
IFC.PR.G FixedReset Ins Non 1.38 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.35
Bid-YTW : 8.31 %
BMO.PR.D FixedReset Disc 1.38 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 20.55
Evaluated at bid price : 20.55
Bid-YTW : 5.40 %
TD.PF.E FixedReset Disc 1.39 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 18.25
Evaluated at bid price : 18.25
Bid-YTW : 5.66 %
BAM.PR.C Floater 1.40 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 10.14
Evaluated at bid price : 10.14
Bid-YTW : 6.95 %
BAM.PF.B FixedReset Disc 1.41 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.50
Evaluated at bid price : 16.50
Bid-YTW : 6.24 %
CM.PR.O FixedReset Disc 1.46 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.03
Evaluated at bid price : 16.03
Bid-YTW : 5.70 %
RY.PR.J FixedReset Disc 1.48 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 17.80
Evaluated at bid price : 17.80
Bid-YTW : 5.62 %
BIP.PR.B FixedReset Prem 1.49 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2020-12-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 25.03
Bid-YTW : 5.06 %
NA.PR.G FixedReset Disc 1.56 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 18.89
Evaluated at bid price : 18.89
Bid-YTW : 5.67 %
IAF.PR.B Deemed-Retractible 1.56 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 21.65
Bid-YTW : 6.36 %
NA.PR.W FixedReset Disc 1.58 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 14.75
Evaluated at bid price : 14.75
Bid-YTW : 5.99 %
TD.PF.J FixedReset Disc 1.62 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 19.40
Evaluated at bid price : 19.40
Bid-YTW : 5.35 %
HSE.PR.C FixedReset Disc 1.69 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.25
Evaluated at bid price : 16.25
Bid-YTW : 6.87 %
EMA.PR.F FixedReset Disc 1.70 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 15.51
Evaluated at bid price : 15.51
Bid-YTW : 6.31 %
TD.PF.A FixedReset Disc 1.72 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.00
Evaluated at bid price : 16.00
Bid-YTW : 5.50 %
BMO.PR.T FixedReset Disc 1.73 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 15.92
Evaluated at bid price : 15.92
Bid-YTW : 5.51 %
BIP.PR.D FixedReset Disc 1.81 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 21.40
Evaluated at bid price : 21.73
Bid-YTW : 5.76 %
RY.PR.Z FixedReset Disc 1.83 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.67
Evaluated at bid price : 16.67
Bid-YTW : 5.31 %
BAM.PF.G FixedReset Disc 1.85 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 15.94
Evaluated at bid price : 15.94
Bid-YTW : 6.57 %
EMA.PR.C FixedReset Disc 1.86 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 17.01
Evaluated at bid price : 17.01
Bid-YTW : 6.07 %
TD.PF.C FixedReset Disc 1.86 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 15.86
Evaluated at bid price : 15.86
Bid-YTW : 5.58 %
MFC.PR.J FixedReset Ins Non 1.93 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.45
Bid-YTW : 7.97 %
BMO.PR.C FixedReset Disc 1.95 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 20.90
Evaluated at bid price : 20.90
Bid-YTW : 5.49 %
MFC.PR.M FixedReset Ins Non 1.95 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 15.15
Bid-YTW : 9.71 %
RY.PR.H FixedReset Disc 1.96 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.65
Evaluated at bid price : 16.65
Bid-YTW : 5.29 %
HSE.PR.E FixedReset Disc 2.12 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 17.36
Evaluated at bid price : 17.36
Bid-YTW : 7.05 %
MFC.PR.H FixedReset Ins Non 2.16 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.85
Bid-YTW : 7.20 %
MFC.PR.G FixedReset Ins Non 2.18 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 17.37
Bid-YTW : 8.57 %
IAF.PR.G FixedReset Ins Non 2.26 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.10
Bid-YTW : 7.92 %
HSE.PR.G FixedReset Disc 2.41 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 17.00
Evaluated at bid price : 17.00
Bid-YTW : 7.14 %
MFC.PR.Q FixedReset Ins Non 2.56 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.02
Bid-YTW : 8.24 %
BMO.PR.Y FixedReset Disc 2.57 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 17.96
Evaluated at bid price : 17.96
Bid-YTW : 5.53 %
IAF.PR.I FixedReset Ins Non 2.60 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.27
Bid-YTW : 8.23 %
MFC.PR.N FixedReset Ins Non 2.65 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 15.09
Bid-YTW : 9.69 %
IFC.PR.C FixedReset Ins Non 2.72 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 17.00
Bid-YTW : 8.58 %
BAM.PF.E FixedReset Disc 2.80 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 14.70
Evaluated at bid price : 14.70
Bid-YTW : 6.64 %
BAM.PR.X FixedReset Disc 2.82 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 12.03
Evaluated at bid price : 12.03
Bid-YTW : 6.32 %
BAM.PF.F FixedReset Disc 2.87 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.15
Evaluated at bid price : 16.15
Bid-YTW : 6.48 %
TD.PF.I FixedReset Disc 2.94 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 20.33
Evaluated at bid price : 20.33
Bid-YTW : 5.35 %
BAM.PR.T FixedReset Disc 2.99 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 13.76
Evaluated at bid price : 13.76
Bid-YTW : 6.55 %
IFC.PR.A FixedReset Ins Non 3.17 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 14.01
Bid-YTW : 10.24 %
SLF.PR.I FixedReset Ins Non 3.34 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 17.65
Bid-YTW : 8.15 %
TRP.PR.D FixedReset Disc 3.36 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 15.40
Evaluated at bid price : 15.40
Bid-YTW : 6.09 %
MFC.PR.K FixedReset Ins Non 3.45 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 16.81
Bid-YTW : 8.78 %
BAM.PR.B Floater 3.52 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 10.30
Evaluated at bid price : 10.30
Bid-YTW : 6.84 %
SLF.PR.G FixedReset Ins Non 3.56 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 12.51
Bid-YTW : 10.68 %
NA.PR.S FixedReset Disc 3.80 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.40
Evaluated at bid price : 16.40
Bid-YTW : 5.77 %
MFC.PR.I FixedReset Ins Non 3.83 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 17.90
Bid-YTW : 8.33 %
TRP.PR.F FloatingReset 3.95 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 12.37
Evaluated at bid price : 12.37
Bid-YTW : 7.32 %
BAM.PR.K Floater 4.04 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 10.30
Evaluated at bid price : 10.30
Bid-YTW : 6.84 %
SLF.PR.J FloatingReset 4.16 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 12.52
Bid-YTW : 11.29 %
CU.PR.C FixedReset Disc 4.30 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.48
Evaluated at bid price : 16.48
Bid-YTW : 5.50 %
TRP.PR.A FixedReset Disc 4.52 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 12.50
Evaluated at bid price : 12.50
Bid-YTW : 6.46 %
TRP.PR.G FixedReset Disc 4.55 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.55
Evaluated at bid price : 16.55
Bid-YTW : 6.35 %
SLF.PR.H FixedReset Ins Non 4.79 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 15.30
Bid-YTW : 9.11 %
TRP.PR.C FixedReset Disc 5.21 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 10.90
Evaluated at bid price : 10.90
Bid-YTW : 6.36 %
HSE.PR.A FixedReset Disc 5.83 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 11.25
Evaluated at bid price : 11.25
Bid-YTW : 6.57 %
TRP.PR.B FixedReset Disc 6.23 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 10.40
Evaluated at bid price : 10.40
Bid-YTW : 6.13 %
TRP.PR.E FixedReset Disc 6.33 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 14.45
Evaluated at bid price : 14.45
Bid-YTW : 6.30 %
Volume Highlights
Issue Index Shares
Traded
Notes
TRP.PR.B FixedReset Disc 389,564 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 10.40
Evaluated at bid price : 10.40
Bid-YTW : 6.13 %
TRP.PR.A FixedReset Disc 148,692 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 12.50
Evaluated at bid price : 12.50
Bid-YTW : 6.46 %
TD.PF.A FixedReset Disc 105,100 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.00
Evaluated at bid price : 16.00
Bid-YTW : 5.50 %
BAM.PF.G FixedReset Disc 92,855 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 15.94
Evaluated at bid price : 15.94
Bid-YTW : 6.57 %
PWF.PR.P FixedReset Disc 82,228 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 11.85
Evaluated at bid price : 11.85
Bid-YTW : 5.97 %
NA.PR.S FixedReset Disc 62,362 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.40
Evaluated at bid price : 16.40
Bid-YTW : 5.77 %
There were 62 other index-included issues trading in excess of 10,000 shares.
Wide Spread Highlights
Issue Index Quote Data and Yield Notes
PWF.PR.L Perpetual-Discount Quote: 22.28 – 22.84
Spot Rate : 0.5600
Average : 0.3616

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 22.05
Evaluated at bid price : 22.28
Bid-YTW : 5.78 %

BMO.PR.T FixedReset Disc Quote: 15.92 – 16.37
Spot Rate : 0.4500
Average : 0.2890

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 15.92
Evaluated at bid price : 15.92
Bid-YTW : 5.51 %

RY.PR.M FixedReset Disc Quote: 17.20 – 17.60
Spot Rate : 0.4000
Average : 0.2391

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 17.20
Evaluated at bid price : 17.20
Bid-YTW : 5.63 %

GWO.PR.T Deemed-Retractible Quote: 22.70 – 23.23
Spot Rate : 0.5300
Average : 0.3884

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 22.70
Bid-YTW : 6.35 %

CU.PR.C FixedReset Disc Quote: 16.48 – 17.00
Spot Rate : 0.5200
Average : 0.3813

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-29
Maturity Price : 16.48
Evaluated at bid price : 16.48
Bid-YTW : 5.50 %

EIT.PR.A SplitShare Quote: 25.25 – 25.64
Spot Rate : 0.3900
Average : 0.2541

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Soft Maturity
Maturity Date : 2024-03-14
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 25.25
Bid-YTW : 4.53 %

7 Responses to “August 29, 2019”

  1. jimmy says:

    The buy decision on these sort of reminds me of the orange juice futures floor scene in the movie ‘ Trading Places’ .

    As the price becomes more and more attractive we are all waiting for the absolute bottom asking “now ? ” then saying ” Not yet” as more lousy news hits the market and they fall even further.

    Getting pretty close now I think to where we have hit rock bottom and there can’t be any more lousy news and it is time to start buying

    Maybe someone could be the Lewis Winthorp and yell ” buy em” but we have to be close now.

    Actually he yelled “Sell 30 April 142” (their market was buying options to sell at $1.42/lb knowing the oj crop was ok and the price would fall – short selling) lol

  2. mbarbon says:

    I couldn’t find anything out there that would would have triggered today’s rise. Maybe it was Lewis Winthorp…

  3. Nestor says:

    rather than trying to pick the bottom, why not wait until it’s clear things have turned around?

  4. Nestor says:

    or, as James would prefer, don’t bother timing anything. have an allocation, and stick to it. i mean, he’s said it here so many times.

  5. mbarbon says:

    I just don’t like how its trended down so badly in the past few months… However GIC rates have done the same thing.

    I believe outlook and your current weighting is of major importance. If your already near your allocation I believe you should wait for the trend to reverse (after all principle is important no matter the rate).

    If you have a very low weighting and lots of room to buy than I would consider buying, but with caution.

    Of course its only one persons opinion who bought the before the bottom last time and was contemplating selling months ago because of the gains, but I now back to where I was years ago…

  6. skeptical says:

    There are no free lunches. If risk free rate is say 3%, best case(at CDIC insured tier 2 and tier 3 banks/FIs), then how can one expect close to 5.5 or 6% with no volatility?
    In this case, it’s actually more like 7.5 to 8%.
    So we want to get about 2.5 to 3x the return but are not willing to happen volatility of even 5 to 10% in prices?
    Just ain’t happening!
    Volatility is the price for higher returns.

  7. skeptical says:

    but are not willing to happen volatility of even 5 to 10% in prices?

    correction:
    but are not willing to Accept volatility of even 5 to 10% in prices?

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