August 6, 2019

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Trump’s trade war heated up over the long weekend:

The trade war between the United States and China entered a more dangerous phase on Monday, as Beijing allowed its currency to weaken, Chinese enterprises stopped making new purchases of American farm goods and President Trump indicated he would look for ways to retaliate.

The escalation shook world markets on Monday, as nervous investors looked for safe places to park their money. Wall Street suffered its worst day of the year, with the S&P 500 closing down nearly 3 percent. Selling was especially heavy in the trade-sensitive technology, consumer discretionary and industrial sectors. Yields on United States Treasuries, which fall as prices rise, dropped as investors sought safety in government-backed bonds. Benchmark indexes in Asia and Europe also fell.

Mohamed A. El-Erian posted on Facebook:

With today’s move, the entire yield curve for government bonds in Germany closed at negative levels.

This will take the stock of negative-yielding bonds worldwide to some $15 trillion.

Given what has occurred since European markets closed, look for both to get worse tomorrow.

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One of those events was a declaration by the US Treasury:

Late Monday, the Treasury took the unusual step of labeling China a currency manipulator — the first time it has done so since 1994. In a statement, the Treasury said that Steven Mnuchin, the Treasury secretary, “will engage with the International Monetary Fund to eliminate the unfair competitive advantage created by China’s latest actions.”

The action is mostly symbolic, requiring the administration to consult with the International Monetary Fund to try to eliminate the unfair advantage the currency measures have given a country. But China is likely to view the label as a rebuke, further escalating pressures between the countries.

The move will finally fulfill Mr. Trump’s campaign pledge to designate China a currency manipulator. As a presidential candidate, Mr. Trump was sharply critical of China’s currency practices and promised to label China a manipulator if elected.

Until Monday, Mr. Trump’s Treasury had declined to apply the label to China in the five currency reports it issued since the president took office. Instead, it has said the United States has deep concerns about China’s intervention in its currency.

For all that, the effect on Canadian major markets was muted:

Canada’s main stock index fell on Tuesday, hurt by a slide in energy and financial sectors amid heightened trade tensions between the United States and China.

The Toronto Stock Exchange’s S&P/TSX Composite index was down 122.17 points, or 0.75 per cent, at 16,149.49.

TXPR closed at 605.92, down 0.62% on the day. Volume was 1.72-million, slightly above the median of the past thirty days.

CPD closed at 12.11, down 0.86% on the day. Volume of 66,608 was slightly above the median of the past thirty days.

ZPR closed at 9.71, down 1.32% on the day. Volume of 101,277 was near the median of the past 30 days.

Five-year Canada yields were down 8bp to 1.37% today.

The BoC has released a staff analytical note titled Relative Value of Government of Canada Bonds:

We identify factors that are important for explaining why similar Government of Canada (GoC) bonds can have different values. For bonds that are expensive, we find they have higher trading volume and higher rental income. These factors can make these bonds more expensive than similar bonds, by up to 5 bps. For the cheap bonds, we find that they tend to have longer tenors and times to maturity. These bonds are typically harder and costlier to trade. Market participants may therefore value them less. The importance of rental income for GoC bond values suggests that a cap on rental income could hinder the ability of these bonds to reach their market value. This could lead to misallocation of these bonds among the buyers and sellers who value them most.

Yup. That’s why you have to be very careful when backtesting long-short hedge strategies! The borrow rates on expensive bonds can kill you!

RBC Wealth Management released some survey results (emphasis from original):

High-income Canadians are optimistic they will meet their goals, yet find wealth management topics complicated
Of the 48% of respondents who are not as wealthy as they thought they would be, almost three quarters (73%) believe they will reach their financial goals before retirement. This optimism seems to be at odds with their confidence when it comes to aspects of wealth management topics, with the majority agreeing the following topics are challenging:

Knowing which information to trust (78%)
Staying on top of what’s happening in the financial markets (76%)
Using tax strategies to minimize taxes (71%)
Ensuring they don’t outlive their assets during retirement (70%)
Understanding the use of insurance in a financial plan (66%)

HIMIPref™ Preferred Indices
These values reflect the December 2008 revision of the HIMIPref™ Indices

Values are provisional and are finalized monthly
Index Mean
Current
Yield
(at bid)
Median
YTW
Median
Average
Trading
Value
Median
Mod Dur
(YTW)
Issues Day’s Perf. Index Value
Ratchet 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 -2.5983 % 1,926.9
FixedFloater 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 -2.5983 % 3,535.8
Floater 6.20 % 6.33 % 38,989 13.39 4 -2.5983 % 2,037.7
OpRet 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 -0.0902 % 3,339.3
SplitShare 4.66 % 4.71 % 72,804 4.09 7 -0.0902 % 3,987.8
Interest-Bearing 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 -0.0902 % 3,111.5
Perpetual-Premium 5.61 % -18.00 % 55,549 0.09 7 -0.0784 % 2,989.7
Perpetual-Discount 5.44 % 5.60 % 58,516 14.47 25 -0.1383 % 3,131.4
FixedReset Disc 5.48 % 5.34 % 161,187 14.85 69 -0.9677 % 2,100.8
Deemed-Retractible 5.23 % 5.93 % 63,065 7.92 27 -0.2569 % 3,116.2
FloatingReset 4.07 % 4.46 % 34,840 2.39 4 -0.4099 % 2,338.4
FixedReset Prem 5.15 % 3.90 % 157,441 1.86 17 -0.0986 % 2,595.1
FixedReset Bank Non 1.98 % 3.98 % 84,426 2.41 3 0.0000 % 2,656.6
FixedReset Ins Non 5.32 % 7.58 % 84,714 8.01 22 -1.1778 % 2,142.0
Performance Highlights
Issue Index Change Notes
TRP.PR.G FixedReset Disc -4.43 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.25
Evaluated at bid price : 17.25
Bid-YTW : 6.34 %
CU.PR.C FixedReset Disc -4.23 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.00
Evaluated at bid price : 17.00
Bid-YTW : 5.55 %
BAM.PR.K Floater -4.21 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 10.93
Evaluated at bid price : 10.93
Bid-YTW : 6.41 %
BAM.PR.C Floater -3.77 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 10.99
Evaluated at bid price : 10.99
Bid-YTW : 6.38 %
IFC.PR.G FixedReset Ins Non -3.71 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.45
Bid-YTW : 7.57 %
CM.PR.Q FixedReset Disc -2.90 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 18.40
Evaluated at bid price : 18.40
Bid-YTW : 5.65 %
IFC.PR.C FixedReset Ins Non -2.70 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.00
Bid-YTW : 7.92 %
NA.PR.E FixedReset Disc -2.60 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 19.07
Evaluated at bid price : 19.07
Bid-YTW : 5.39 %
TRP.PR.A FixedReset Disc -2.58 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 13.22
Evaluated at bid price : 13.22
Bid-YTW : 6.31 %
BAM.PR.B Floater -2.46 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 11.08
Evaluated at bid price : 11.08
Bid-YTW : 6.33 %
TRP.PR.C FixedReset Disc -2.38 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 11.50
Evaluated at bid price : 11.50
Bid-YTW : 6.26 %
MFC.PR.J FixedReset Ins Non -2.22 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.91
Bid-YTW : 7.88 %
BMO.PR.W FixedReset Disc -2.16 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.19
Evaluated at bid price : 17.19
Bid-YTW : 5.24 %
HSE.PR.G FixedReset Disc -2.15 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 18.65
Evaluated at bid price : 18.65
Bid-YTW : 6.64 %
BAM.PF.E FixedReset Disc -2.02 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 16.02
Evaluated at bid price : 16.02
Bid-YTW : 6.25 %
RY.PR.M FixedReset Disc -2.00 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 18.66
Evaluated at bid price : 18.66
Bid-YTW : 5.33 %
IFC.PR.A FixedReset Ins Non -1.99 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 14.80
Bid-YTW : 9.56 %
BMO.PR.E FixedReset Disc -1.98 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 20.75
Evaluated at bid price : 20.75
Bid-YTW : 5.12 %
TD.PF.I FixedReset Disc -1.96 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 21.70
Evaluated at bid price : 21.96
Bid-YTW : 5.03 %
NA.PR.W FixedReset Disc -1.96 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 16.48
Evaluated at bid price : 16.48
Bid-YTW : 5.53 %
CM.PR.S FixedReset Disc -1.96 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 18.48
Evaluated at bid price : 18.48
Bid-YTW : 5.41 %
IAF.PR.G FixedReset Ins Non -1.95 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 20.15
Bid-YTW : 6.77 %
RY.PR.J FixedReset Disc -1.89 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 19.22
Evaluated at bid price : 19.22
Bid-YTW : 5.34 %
EMA.PR.F FixedReset Disc -1.83 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.13
Evaluated at bid price : 17.13
Bid-YTW : 5.87 %
IAF.PR.I FixedReset Ins Non -1.82 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 20.52
Bid-YTW : 6.96 %
MFC.PR.K FixedReset Ins Non -1.81 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 17.88
Bid-YTW : 8.21 %
CM.PR.O FixedReset Disc -1.76 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.31
Evaluated at bid price : 17.31
Bid-YTW : 5.37 %
TRP.PR.B FixedReset Disc -1.68 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 11.11
Evaluated at bid price : 11.11
Bid-YTW : 5.99 %
TD.PF.D FixedReset Disc -1.64 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 19.82
Evaluated at bid price : 19.82
Bid-YTW : 5.25 %
TRP.PR.D FixedReset Disc -1.62 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 15.75
Evaluated at bid price : 15.75
Bid-YTW : 6.07 %
TRP.PR.F FloatingReset -1.62 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 13.38
Evaluated at bid price : 13.38
Bid-YTW : 6.77 %
MFC.PR.G FixedReset Ins Non -1.61 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.92
Bid-YTW : 7.70 %
HSE.PR.C FixedReset Disc -1.56 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.64
Evaluated at bid price : 17.64
Bid-YTW : 6.48 %
TRP.PR.E FixedReset Disc -1.48 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 15.32
Evaluated at bid price : 15.32
Bid-YTW : 6.12 %
BAM.PF.F FixedReset Disc -1.46 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.60
Evaluated at bid price : 17.60
Bid-YTW : 6.10 %
BMO.PR.T FixedReset Disc -1.42 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.32
Evaluated at bid price : 17.32
Bid-YTW : 5.23 %
CM.PR.P FixedReset Disc -1.41 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 16.81
Evaluated at bid price : 16.81
Bid-YTW : 5.42 %
NA.PR.S FixedReset Disc -1.40 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.60
Evaluated at bid price : 17.60
Bid-YTW : 5.48 %
BMO.PR.S FixedReset Disc -1.39 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.75
Evaluated at bid price : 17.75
Bid-YTW : 5.28 %
MFC.PR.L FixedReset Ins Non -1.39 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 17.06
Bid-YTW : 8.39 %
MFC.PR.B Deemed-Retractible -1.32 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 21.61
Bid-YTW : 6.58 %
BMO.PR.Y FixedReset Disc -1.31 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 19.63
Evaluated at bid price : 19.63
Bid-YTW : 5.19 %
BAM.PF.A FixedReset Disc -1.25 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 18.91
Evaluated at bid price : 18.91
Bid-YTW : 6.00 %
IFC.PR.E Deemed-Retractible -1.24 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 23.80
Bid-YTW : 5.93 %
NA.PR.C FixedReset Disc -1.23 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 21.40
Evaluated at bid price : 21.73
Bid-YTW : 5.45 %
GWO.PR.R Deemed-Retractible -1.21 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 22.09
Bid-YTW : 6.45 %
BAM.PR.N Perpetual-Discount -1.20 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 20.51
Evaluated at bid price : 20.51
Bid-YTW : 5.87 %
GWO.PR.I Deemed-Retractible -1.18 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 20.89
Bid-YTW : 6.82 %
BNS.PR.E FixedReset Prem -1.15 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2021-04-25
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 25.70
Bid-YTW : 3.90 %
MFC.PR.Q FixedReset Ins Non -1.13 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.30
Bid-YTW : 7.58 %
TD.PF.A FixedReset Disc -1.13 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.55
Evaluated at bid price : 17.55
Bid-YTW : 5.18 %
PWF.PR.S Perpetual-Discount -1.06 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 21.41
Evaluated at bid price : 21.41
Bid-YTW : 5.65 %
BAM.PF.B FixedReset Disc -1.05 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.02
Evaluated at bid price : 17.02
Bid-YTW : 6.16 %
GWO.PR.G Deemed-Retractible -1.04 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 23.80
Bid-YTW : 5.93 %
BMO.PR.C FixedReset Disc -1.03 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 22.47
Evaluated at bid price : 23.01
Bid-YTW : 5.05 %
TD.PF.C FixedReset Disc -1.01 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.60
Evaluated at bid price : 17.60
Bid-YTW : 5.18 %
HSE.PR.E FixedReset Disc -1.01 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 18.61
Evaluated at bid price : 18.61
Bid-YTW : 6.71 %
BAM.PR.X FixedReset Disc -1.01 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 12.75
Evaluated at bid price : 12.75
Bid-YTW : 6.15 %
BAM.PF.G FixedReset Disc 1.22 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.40
Evaluated at bid price : 17.40
Bid-YTW : 6.16 %
Volume Highlights
Issue Index Shares
Traded
Notes
CU.PR.D Perpetual-Discount 203,700 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 22.51
Evaluated at bid price : 22.80
Bid-YTW : 5.46 %
CM.PR.R FixedReset Disc 33,708 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 21.77
Evaluated at bid price : 22.02
Bid-YTW : 5.35 %
TD.PF.M FixedReset Disc 31,200 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 23.15
Evaluated at bid price : 24.96
Bid-YTW : 4.96 %
BAM.PF.J FixedReset Disc 29,232 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 22.80
Evaluated at bid price : 23.75
Bid-YTW : 5.00 %
TRP.PR.F FloatingReset 24,700 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 13.38
Evaluated at bid price : 13.38
Bid-YTW : 6.77 %
BAM.PF.I FixedReset Disc 24,550 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2022-03-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 25.25
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There were 25 other index-included issues trading in excess of 10,000 shares.
Wide Spread Highlights
Issue Index Quote Data and Yield Notes
HSE.PR.C FixedReset Disc Quote: 17.64 – 18.59
Spot Rate : 0.9500
Average : 0.6257

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 17.64
Evaluated at bid price : 17.64
Bid-YTW : 6.48 %

BNS.PR.F FloatingReset Quote: 24.16 – 24.67
Spot Rate : 0.5100
Average : 0.3126

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 24.16
Bid-YTW : 4.46 %

CM.PR.Q FixedReset Disc Quote: 18.40 – 18.94
Spot Rate : 0.5400
Average : 0.3586

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 18.40
Evaluated at bid price : 18.40
Bid-YTW : 5.65 %

BAM.PR.N Perpetual-Discount Quote: 20.51 – 20.95
Spot Rate : 0.4400
Average : 0.2850

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2049-08-06
Maturity Price : 20.51
Evaluated at bid price : 20.51
Bid-YTW : 5.87 %

IFC.PR.G FixedReset Ins Non Quote: 19.45 – 19.95
Spot Rate : 0.5000
Average : 0.3470

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.45
Bid-YTW : 7.57 %

GWO.PR.R Deemed-Retractible Quote: 22.09 – 22.70
Spot Rate : 0.6100
Average : 0.4582

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2030-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 22.09
Bid-YTW : 6.45 %

8 Responses to “August 6, 2019”

  1. gsp says:

    “Five-year Canada yields were down 8bp to 1.37% today.”

    Those numbers are from August 1st! Market closed at 1.22% yesterday, down 14 cents, at 1.22. As I type this they are down another 9 cents to 1.13%.

    https://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/canada-5-year-bond-yield-historical-data

  2. JClay says:

    What happens to the rate paid on reset preferred shares if GOC yields are negative at the date of the reset? Is there a lower bound of zero % on the GOC yield in the calculation, or does a negative GOC yield get deducted from the reset spread?

    Just wondering if the dismal performance of rate resets is discounting the possibility that GOC yields just keep declining and potentially go negative like yields in some other developed countries?

  3. skeptical says:

    Complex derivatives masquerading as a fixed income product, even a GIC alternative. Such is the trickery of Bay Street. Can’t say it was because of malice, but given that all the cards are always with the issuer, there was no need to do any stress testing on the deflation side.
    All the issuers are happy.
    For those that are not bound by regulatory constraints will gladly borrow at 3 to 3.5% and strenthen their balance sheets by buying back these preferred equity obligations at massive discounts of upto 60%. All these for blue chip A(-) and higher credit companies. Brookfield is also doing it and others will also do that.
    Poor retail guys are well…

    It’s almost like the End of Newtonian physics and the beginning of the era of Speical Theory of Relativity. Time is no longer a constant or in this case, interest rates can and do fall below zero.

    As far as the calculation goes, they will claim a simple arithmetic operation is what they need to perform- GOC 5 year plus the spread, whatever it might yield. James has a beautiful link to this somewhere and may repost here.

    Despite today’s carnage, the destruction was much more methodical. I was looking for some bargains on the perpetuals, but couldn’t find much. Seems the ‘risk’ of perpetuals is now manageable!

  4. jiHymas says:

    Those numbers are from August 1st!

    Hell! You are quite right and at present both the TMX Money page and its source, the CanDeal summary page continue to report August 1 figures … which may mean that they’re trying to restrict access to the data so that they can sell more subscriptions. It is a pity that the Bank of Canada reports only on a next-day basis.

    I have sent an eMail to Candeal:

    Sirs,

    Your bond prices displayed at http://www.candeal.com/bond-quotes/goc-bonds are ” as of: 08/01/2019 – 4:45:00pm EST”

    Do you intend to update these prices in the near future?

    Sincerely,

    Assiduous Reader KC writes in and says:

    James,
    It would appear to me that the CanDeal Bond & Rate sites are no longer being updated (https://www.tmxmoney.com/en/market_activity/candeal.html and http://www.candeal.com/) and that us poor small investors are now left with the day or more old bond data from the Bank of Canada site. I saw no news related that this was to happen and the data appear to be unchanged as of August 1st. N.B. Your post of today is incorrect in it’s reference to the 5-yr GOC bond rate, being closer to 1.231% as of 4:00pm, August 7th, 2019. If you have suggestions about other sites likeminded readers may be equally interested as am I. There is always https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmbmkca-05y?countrycode=bx but not as viewer friendly as the TMX/CanDeal bond site was. Thx,

    For now, I’ll be using the link supplied by Assiduous Reader gsp, above: https://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/canada-5-year-bond-yield-historical-data.

  5. jiHymas says:

    What happens to the rate paid on reset preferred shares if GOC yields are negative at the date of the reset?

    I presume that the rate paid will be equal to the negative rate plus the spread, as long as the total is greater than zero.

    If the total is less than zero (very unlikely) then I believe the rate will be set to zero, as has happened in Europe. But nobody knows for sure.

    Just wondering if the dismal performance of rate resets is discounting the possibility that GOC yields just keep declining and potentially go negative like yields in some other developed countries?

    I’m not sure if it’s that sophisticated. I suspect that the reasoning is:
    i) Yields have gone down.
    ii) Therefore they will continue to go down
    iii) Therefore FixedReset prices will go down
    iv) Therefore, sell.

    As far as the calculation goes, they will claim a simple arithmetic operation is what they need to perform- GOC 5 year plus the spread, whatever it might yield. James has a beautiful link to this somewhere and may repost here.

    Do you mean the link to the RealKredit policy linked in an earlier discussion?

  6. skeptical says:

    Do you mean the link to the RealKredit policy linked in an earlier discussion?

    Yes.

  7. jiHymas says:

    I have sent an eMail to Candeal:

    I have received a reply:

    Hello Jim.

    CanDeal is no longer putting bond prices on the WebSite.

    CanDeal does have a billable data offering which may suit your needs.

    What are you seeking specifically?

    Sincerely,

    Perhaps in my younger days I would have sent an eMail objecting to “Jim”, pointing out that prices were still displayed even though far out of date and inquiring if there had been any press release or other notification …. but I don’t think I’ll bother.

  8. jiHymas says:

    I have also received a reply from the TMX:

    Hi James,

    Thanks for reaching out. I am in contact with CanDeal and have asked them to resume updating the content in question. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience in the meantime.

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