{"id":1467,"date":"2007-11-17T00:20:23","date_gmt":"2007-11-17T04:20:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.prefblog.com\/?p=1467"},"modified":"2007-11-17T00:20:23","modified_gmt":"2007-11-17T04:20:23","slug":"november-16-2007","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=1467","title":{"rendered":"November 16, 2007"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Accrued Interest<\/em> wrote an interesting post regarding <a href=\"http:\/\/accruedint.blogspot.com\/2007\/11\/but-how-am-i-to-know-good-side-from-bad.html\">market volatility<\/a>, which is particularly timely in view of\u00a0<em>kaspu&#8217;s question<\/em>\u00a0in the <a href=\"#comments\">November 15 comments<\/a>.\u00a0He reviews the constant 1-2% moves in the market (&#8220;Sub-prime&#8217;s over!&#8221; &#8220;Sub-prime&#8217;s worse!&#8221; &#8220;Buy!&#8221; &#8220;Sell!&#8221;) and concludes that as far as day-to-day excess volatility is concerned:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>So if the market isn&#8217;t manic-depressive, and fundamental buyers don&#8217;t tend to jump in and out of their investments from day to day, who really is moving the market and why?The answer is so-called <a href=\"http:\/\/accruedint2.blogspot.com\/2007\/04\/fast-money.html\"><font color=\"#2ba94f\">fast money<\/font><\/a>. Mostly prop desks at the big dealers and some hedge funds.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I will agree that these players have a big influence; but will note that sometimes &#8220;real money&#8221; accounts hire &#8220;hot money&#8221; traders and, for better or worse, a huge pension fund can be taking a completely speculative ten-minute position. Lots of pension funds are explicitly invested in hedge-funds, for example, so the taxonomy becomes a little confused.<\/p>\n<p>Other influences should not be disregarded. There are, for instance <s>asymettric<\/s> asymmetric\u00a0rewards to stockbrokers: say that an issue that should be at $20 is trading at $18. After getting all their information and advice together, they are as sure of this as they will be of anything. But &#8230; say this thing is a pref that might default. If it goes to $20, they&#8217;ve made 11% on the investment and the client&#8217;s a little happier than otherwise. If it defaults, they lose the client. So they sell.\u00a0<s>Asymettric<\/s> Asymmetric\u00a0and non-aligned risk\/reward profiles! If it subsequently defaults, they&#8217;ve got something to discuss with their clients for the next twenty years or so. If it subsequently goes to $20, they can simply emphasize how lucky the company was to avoid default and how no rational conservative investor would take such chances.<\/p>\n<p>I\u00a0myself have\u00a0had extremely frustrating discussions with clients who want to sell something because it has gone down. If they sell it, they won&#8217;t have to worry about it any more. End of analysis.<\/p>\n<p>Be that as it may, I think there&#8217;s some stuff left out of that; most notably that prices are set by the marginal buyer and seller. Royal Bank shares have a volume of what, maybe 2.5-million shares a day? The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tsx.com\">TSX<\/a> advises that 1,276,215,683 common shares are outstanding, so daily volume is, on average, about maybe 0.2% of outstanding. So if Royal Bank goes up 2%, we can say that this is because investors worth 0.2% of the company decided it was worth 2% more, but holders of 99.8% of the company didn&#8217;t change their minds. There is no reason why every single one of the 0.2% minority can&#8217;t be real money.<\/p>\n<p>It should be emphasized here that a great many models of efficient markets assume infinite liquidity &#8211; and infinite liquidity does not exist. If I&#8217;m a real money investor and I need to raise $10-million, the only things I can sell are the things I already own. So bang! there goes a $10-million sell order on the stock I choose and it may be expected that the price will go down, even though I haven&#8217;t changed my mind regarding that particular stock at all.<\/p>\n<p>Such things are called market impact costs, virtually ignored by academics because it&#8217;s hard to measure, hard to model, and because it contradicts the Holy Efficient Market Hypothesis. One can make a whole lot of money &#8211; and many, many, many players do make a whole lot of money &#8211; simply by selling liquidity to the marketplace, taking the other side of those trades.<\/p>\n<p><em>Accrued Interest<\/em> makes another\u00a0point with which I do not entirely agree -or, at least, that I feel deserves elucidation:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>And of course, if XYZ is getting beat up, then other names in the same industry get beat up also. Maybe the buyer of protection on XYZ had a view specific to that company, but now there is momentum. Dealer desks will start buying <a href=\"http:\/\/accruedint2.blogspot.com\/2007\/04\/protection.html\"><font color=\"#38b63c\">protection<\/font><\/a> against related companies. Suddenly a whole sector is 30-50bps wider on no news.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I have no doubt that in lots of cases the transmission mechanism is as silly as <em>AI<\/em> describes, but there is a more rational explanation.<\/p>\n<p>Say I have a certain amount of my portfolio invested in Banks. At 9am I&#8217;m very happy about my portfolio, because it&#8217;s all in the cheapest bank, &#8220;A&#8221;. Without any news &#8211; or, at least, with no news I deem significant &#8211; Bank &#8220;B&#8221; starts diving. Quick! Update the valuation model! Yes! A swap is possible! Sell &#8220;A&#8221; and buy &#8220;B&#8221;! Thus, while acting as a strictly fundamental value investor, I am converting weakness in &#8220;B&#8221; to weakness in &#8220;A&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway &#8230; there was a bit more clarification on the Fannie Mae accounting panic <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prefblog.com\/?p=1464\">discussed briefly yesterday<\/a>. Fannie was so worried, they <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fanniemae.com\/newsreleases\/2007\/4175.jhtml?p=Media&#038;s=News+Releases\">held a conference call<\/a>. From what I could make out &#8211; without having done any prep on this, you understand; the kerfuffle is over one table in a set of three filed documents each being 100-odd pages long &#8211; what happens is this:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>FNMA securitizes &#038; guarantees mortgage pools<\/li>\n<li>One mortage with a principal value\u00a0of $100,000 goes bad.<\/li>\n<li>Fannie buys it from the pool for $100,000 (this is where they earn their guarantee fee)<\/li>\n<li>Fannie determines the actual value of the mortgage using its internal models<\/li>\n<li>Fannie determines the market value of the mortgage (this is the fun part &#8230; getting quotes on delinquent mortgages in this environment)<\/li>\n<li>Fannie puts the asset on the books at the lower of the two prices (guess which one that is) and charges the balance to expenses<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>As far as I could make out from the call, they are claiming:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the\u00a0expense skyrocketted this quarter because market value has plummetted, not because of any huge increase in volume, or because their internal recovery expectations have changed much<\/li>\n<li>they expect the majority of the delinquencies to be cured<\/li>\n<li>the loss recovery rate will be fairly large and will come back onto the balance sheet as income<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I think. Bloomberg <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/apps\/news?pid=20601010&#038;sid=aaGO28LUSL9g&#038;refer=news\">has a story on it too<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Same old same old in pref-land: volume is good, prices are strange.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"8\"><strong>Note that these indices are experimental; the absolute and relative daily values are expected to change in the final version. In this version, index values are based at 1,000.0 on 2006-6-30<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Index<\/td>\n<td>Mean Current Yield (at bid)<\/td>\n<td>Mean YTW<\/td>\n<td>Mean Average Trading Value<\/td>\n<td>Mean Mod Dur (YTW)<\/td>\n<td>Issues<\/td>\n<td>Day&#8217;s Perf.<\/td>\n<td>Index Value<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ratchet<\/td>\n<td>4.82%<\/td>\n<td>4.82<\/td>\n<td>151,108<\/td>\n<td>15.78<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>-0.6691%<\/td>\n<td>1,045.4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Fixed-Floater<\/td>\n<td>4.87%<\/td>\n<td>4.84%<\/td>\n<td>82,736<\/td>\n<td>15.77<\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>-0.1466%<\/td>\n<td>1,044.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Floater<\/td>\n<td>4.59%<\/td>\n<td>4.62%<\/td>\n<td>60,793<\/td>\n<td>16.09<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>-0.6726%<\/td>\n<td>1,024.0<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Op. Retract<\/td>\n<td>4.86%<\/td>\n<td>3.99%<\/td>\n<td>77,894<\/td>\n<td>3.53<\/td>\n<td>16<\/td>\n<td>+0.0302%<\/td>\n<td>1,032.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Split-Share<\/td>\n<td>5.29%<\/td>\n<td>5.57%<\/td>\n<td>88,867<\/td>\n<td>4.12<\/td>\n<td>15<\/td>\n<td>-0.5620%<\/td>\n<td>1,021.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Interest Bearing<\/td>\n<td>6.29%<\/td>\n<td>6.35%<\/td>\n<td>64,122<\/td>\n<td>3.50<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>+0.0038%<\/td>\n<td>1,051.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Perpetual-Premium<\/td>\n<td>5.85%<\/td>\n<td>5.51%<\/td>\n<td>81,900<\/td>\n<td>7.14<\/td>\n<td>11<\/td>\n<td>-0.0999%<\/td>\n<td>1,008.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Perpetual-Discount<\/td>\n<td>5.59%<\/td>\n<td>5.64%<\/td>\n<td>325,621<\/td>\n<td>13.99<\/td>\n<td>55<\/td>\n<td>-0.1865%<\/td>\n<td>904.0<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\"><strong>Major Price Changes<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Issue<\/td>\n<td>Index<\/td>\n<td>Change<\/td>\n<td>Notes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>BNA.PR.B<\/td>\n<td>SplitShare<\/td>\n<td>-6.8421%<\/td>\n<td>Asset coverage of 3.8+:1 as of July 31, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bnnsplit.com\/investor_nav.htm\">the company<\/a>. Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 6.38% based on a bid of 23.01 and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prefshares.com\/glossary.html#hardMaturity\">hardMaturity<\/a> 2016-3-25 at 25.00. This one&#8217;s actually quite funny, provided you have a sick sense of humour. It traded 2,350 shares today in seven trades in a four cent range 24.66-70. But then it just ran out of bids, closing at a shoot-the-market-maker quote of 23.01-24.99, 5&#215;10. It is sobering to realize that even at the low bid, the issue still has the lowest bid-YTW of any of the three BNA split-shares; BNA.PR.A is at 6.61% (25.10-11, hardMaturity 2010-9-30) and BNA.PR.C is at 7.73% (!) (19.05-33, hardMaturity 2019-1-10). It will be most interesting to see if there are any bids Monday morning.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>FTU.PR.A<\/td>\n<td>SplitShare<\/td>\n<td>-2.7495%<\/td>\n<td>Asset coverage of just under 2.0:1 as of October 31, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.financial15.com\/us_split\/valuations.html\">the company<\/a>. Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 6.40% based on a bid of 9.55 and a hardMaturity 2012-12-1 at 10.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>POW.PR.D<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>-2.4828%<\/td>\n<td>Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.97% based on a bid of 21.21 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>BAM.PR.K<\/td>\n<td>Floater<\/td>\n<td>-1.9558%<\/td>\n<td>Another funny one. It did this on volume of one share. Not one lot &#8230; one share. TD sold it to Hampton at 23.06, the closing bid.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>ELF.PR.F<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>-1.8960%<\/td>\n<td>Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 6.66% based on a bid of 20.18 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>HSB.PR.D<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>-1.7778%<\/td>\n<td>Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.74% based on a bid of 22.10 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>IAG.PR.A<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>-1.7241%<\/td>\n<td>Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.86% based on a bid of 19.95 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>RY.PR.W<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>-1.3268%<\/td>\n<td>Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.51% based on a bid of 22.31 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>PIC.PR.A<\/td>\n<td>SplitShare<\/td>\n<td>-1.3158%<\/td>\n<td>Asset coverage of 1.66:1 as of November 8, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mulvihill.com\/sp_nav.cfm\">Mulvihill<\/a>. Such a ratio is getting into the &#8220;worrisome&#8221; range, but the assets are common shares in the Big 5 banks, so I&#8217;m not worrying much. Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.88% based on a bid of 15.00 and a hardMaturity 2010-11-1 at 15.00. But how about that, eh? 5.88% dividend, interest equivalent 8.23%, on quite reasonably well secured (two of the five banks could go to ZERO and it would still pay in full) three year money? Now I&#8217;ve seen everything!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>BSD.PR.A<\/td>\n<td>InterestBearing<\/td>\n<td>-1.0929%<\/td>\n<td>Asset coverage of just under 1.71:1 as of November 9, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brookfieldfunds.com\/funds\/rising\/nav.htm\">the company<\/a>. Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 7.98% (mostly as interest) based on a bid of 9.05 and a hardMaturity 2015-3-31 at 10.00.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\"><strong>Volume Highlights<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Issue<\/td>\n<td>Index<\/td>\n<td>Volume<\/td>\n<td>Notes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>TD.PR.O<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>112,915<\/td>\n<td>RBC bought 10,200 from Nesbitt at 22.27. Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.49% based on a bid of 22.27 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>TD.PR.P<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>64,485<\/td>\n<td>Recent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prefblog.com\/?p=1461\">inventory blow-out<\/a>. Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.50% based on a bid of 24.03 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>BAM.PR.N<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>51,860<\/td>\n<td>Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 6.64% based on a bid of 18.21 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>RY.PR.B<\/td>\n<td>PerpetualDiscount<\/td>\n<td>46,927<\/td>\n<td>Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.42% based on a bid of 21.79 and a limitMaturity.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>LBS.PR.A<\/td>\n<td>SplitShare<\/td>\n<td>92,400<\/td>\n<td>CIBC crossed 64,600 at 10.06; Scotia crossed 25,000 at the same price. Asset coverage of just under 2.4:1 as of November 15, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bromptongroup.com\/funds\/lbs\/overview\/\">Brompton Group<\/a>. Now with a pre-tax bid-YTW of 5.18% based on a bid of 10.10 and a hardMaturity 2013-11-29 at 10.00.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<p>There were twenty-seven other index-included $25.00-equivalent issues trading over 10,000 shares today.<\/p>\n<p><b>Update, 2007-11-18<\/b>: Spelling of <s>assym<\/s> <s>asymett<\/s> asymmetric has been corrected. 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