{"id":3263,"date":"2008-10-02T19:18:02","date_gmt":"2008-10-02T23:18:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.prefblog.com\/?p=3263"},"modified":"2008-10-02T19:18:02","modified_gmt":"2008-10-02T23:18:02","slug":"sloppy-indeed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=3263","title":{"rendered":"Sloppy Indeed!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It will not have escaped notice that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/apps\/news?pid=20601082&#038;sid=al86LWWSWvcw&#038;refer=canada\">equities got crushed today<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Canadian stocks tumbled the most in almost eight years, led by a record drop in raw-material shares, as tighter credit, rising unemployment and lower home prices threatened to tip the U.S. into a recession.<\/p>\n<p>Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan Inc. fell the most since 1989 after rival Mosaic Co. posted profit that missed analysts&#8217; estimates and cut its sales forecast. Barrick Gold Corp. plunged the most in two decades as bullion declined on speculation the U.S. will approve a $700 billion plan to revive credit markets, reducing the metal&#8217;s appeal.<\/p>\n<p>Suncor Energy Inc. touched the lowest in 15 years, leading oil and gas producers lower as crude fell below $95 a barrel and Merrill Lynch &#038; Co. said it may drop to $50. The Standard &#038; Poor&#8217;s\/TSX Composite Index fell 7 percent to 10,900.54 in Toronto, the most since Oct. 25, 2000.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Preferreds were not immune, although the TXPR&#8217;s loss of 1.02% looks a whole better than &#8216;first-loss&#8217; equities!<\/p>\n<p>But the really illuminating thing about the action is just how SLOPPY this market is. I mean, look &#8230; if you want to tell me that the proper yield for preferreds in this environment is X, I&#8217;ll listen! For a while, anyway. That sort of speculation is simply <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prefblog.com\/?p=2294\">market timing<\/a> and I don&#8217;t put much credence in it.<\/p>\n<p>But surely similar securities from the same issuer should trade somewhere around each other! But that&#8217;s not the case today &#8230; the yield curve has been getting sloppier and sloppier over the past couple of weeks and today &#8230; well, I haven&#8217;t checked, but it must be some kind of record!<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\">Internal Spreads on<br \/>Perpetual Discount Issues<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Issuer<\/td>\n<td>High Bid Yield<\/td>\n<td>Low Bid Yield<\/td>\n<td>High\/Low<br \/>Series ID<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>BMO<\/td>\n<td>6.62%<\/td>\n<td>6.26%<\/td>\n<td>H, L<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>BNS<\/td>\n<td>5.89%<\/td>\n<td>5.70%<\/td>\n<td>N, K<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>CM<\/td>\n<td>7.07%<\/td>\n<td>6.93%<\/td>\n<td>E, I<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>GWO<\/td>\n<td>6.70%<\/td>\n<td>5.97%<\/td>\n<td>H, F<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>NA<\/td>\n<td>6.39%<\/td>\n<td>6.23%<\/td>\n<td>K, L<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>POW<\/td>\n<td>6.78%<\/td>\n<td>6.38%<\/td>\n<td>(B &#038; D), A<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>PWF<\/td>\n<td>6.54%<\/td>\n<td>6.06%<\/td>\n<td>L, E<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>RY<\/td>\n<td>6.29%<\/td>\n<td>6.11%<\/td>\n<td>W, H<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>SLF<\/td>\n<td>6.34%<\/td>\n<td>6.24%<\/td>\n<td>D, B<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>TD<\/td>\n<td>6.15%<\/td>\n<td>5.84%<\/td>\n<td>O, (Q &#038; R)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\">Issuers included in list if they have at least three issues listed in the &#8220;PerpetualDiscount&#8221; index<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<p>Speaking very generally, there appears to be some positive correlation between Average Daily Trading Value and Yield &#8211; that is, the higher the average volume, the higher the yield, which is to say: the liquidity premium is negative &#8230; which really shouldn&#8217;t happen.<\/p>\n<p>This behavior is consistent with people simply reducing exposure by selling whatever&#8217;s easiest to sell, regardless of price.<\/p>\n<p>The weighted mean average pre-tax bid-YTW of the PerpetualDiscount index is now 6.37%, which is about where it was on July 11 (going up) and July 28 (going down). This is equivalent to 8.92% interest at the standard conversion factor of 1.4x. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.canadianbondindices.com\/ltbi.asp\">Long corporates<\/a> now yield about 6.7%, so the PTIE spread is now about 220bp.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It will not have escaped notice that equities got crushed today: Canadian stocks tumbled the most in almost eight years, led by a record drop in raw-material shares, as tighter credit, rising unemployment and lower &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3263","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-spreads-to-bonds"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3263","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3263"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3263\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3263"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3263"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3263"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}