{"id":50710,"date":"2019-08-24T11:47:00","date_gmt":"2019-08-24T15:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=50710"},"modified":"2025-11-17T11:51:27","modified_gmt":"2025-11-17T16:51:27","slug":"td-pf-m-cm-pr-y-still-expensive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=50710","title":{"rendered":"TD.PF.M &#038; CM.PR.Y: Still Expensive"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Assiduous Reader <i>coolmesh<\/i> <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=39279\">asked on the August 20 post<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019ve been watching TD.PF.M getting hammered the last four weeks. Good rate, good reset rate and good quality company. Any thoughts on what\u2019s going there?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>TD.PF.M is a FixedReset 5.10%+356, NVCC, that <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=38899\">commenced trading 2019-6-4<\/a> after being <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=38813\">announced 2019-5-24<\/a>. It is tracked by HIMIPref&trade; and is assigned to the FixedReset (Discount) subindex.<\/p>\n<p>CM.PR.Y is a FixedReset, 5.15%+362, NVCC, that <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=38897\">commenced trading 2019-6-4<\/a> after <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=38817\">announced May 24<\/a>. It is tracked by HIMIPref&trade; and is assigned to the FixedReset (Discount) subindex.<\/p>\n<p>June 4 was the last date we saw a new issue start to trade, as the new issue market is currently &#8216;closed for re-pricing&#8217;, we might say. We might normally expect a bank issue or two to be announced once the banks have gotten their 19Q3 earnings announcements out of the way, but given the tone of the market it won&#8217;t be surprising if they just give this opportunity a miss. On the other hand, the grossly foreshortened 5-year call-lockout period for FixedResets means that issuers have relatively little at risk in offering so-called perpetual product in times of elevated yields (this has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.himivest.com\/media\/moneysaver_0805.pdf\">always been a crucial point with this structure<\/a>) so who knows?<\/p>\n<p>It will be recalled that with respect to the issue-date pricing of TD.PF.M, <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=38899\">I concluded<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>According to this [Implied Volatility] analysis, the fair price of the new issue is 23.58, down 0.69 from the announcement day fair value of 24.27.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230; while the <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=38897\">conclusion for CM.PR.Y<\/a> was:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>According to this analysis, the fair price of the new issue is 23.71, down from the announcement day fair-value of 24.85, but alert Assiduous Readers will have noticed that the Implied Volatility plot is very peculiar, having three expensive issues and four cheap ones, with nothing in between.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So let&#8217;s update the <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=32354\">Implied Volatility Analyses<\/a>:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/impVol_TD_190823.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/impVol_TD_190823-300x247.jpg\" alt=\"impvol_td_190823\" width=\"400\" height=\"329\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-39315\"><\/a><br \/><i>Click for Big<\/i><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/impVol_CM_190823.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/impVol_CM_190823-300x247.jpg\" alt=\"impvol_cm_190823\" width=\"400\" height=\"329\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-39316\"><\/a><br \/><i>Click for Big<\/i><\/div>\n<p>According to these analyses, TD.PF.M continues to be very expensive, bid at 23.86 with a fair price of 22.54; the same applies to CM.PR.Y, bid at 23.50 with a fair value of 22.44.<\/p>\n<p>And now we can turn to relative performance for the month-to-date:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/perf_Pfd2_190731_190823B.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/perf_Pfd2_190731_190823B-246x300.jpg\" alt=\"perf_pfd2_190731_190823b\" width=\"400\" height=\"487\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-39322\"><\/a><br \/><i>Click for Big<\/i><\/div>\n<p>So neither TD.PF.M (Spread +356bp, Performance -4.71%) nor CM.PR.Y (+362bp, -5.81%) are too far out of line with either the series for their issuers or with the general &#8220;Pfd-2 Group&#8221; (which includes Pfd-2(high) and Pfd-2(low) issues). In fact, they&#8217;ve done relatively well due to their relatively high Issue Reset Spreads, although correlation is poor.<\/p>\n<p>There are three obvious outliers that are ruining the correlation analysis: CIU.PR.C (+136bp, -1.55%); BAM.PF.J (+310bp, -0.76%); and VNR.PR.A (+281bp, +0.40%); the last of which is <a href=\"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/?p=39207\">inching towards acquisition at par<\/a>. If we perform the correlation analysis without these three, we find a correlation of 19% &#8211; which isn&#8217;t bad, given three weeks of chaos &#8211; and it is this correlation that is shown on the chart.<\/p>\n<p>So the short answer to the question:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Any thoughts on what\u2019s going there?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>is &#8230; the market&#8217;s blown up and these issues are not immune. Note that both of these recent new issues remain expensive relative to their peers and I expect this premium pricing to decay over the next twelve months or so, which is equivalent to saying that I expect them both to underperform.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Assiduous Reader coolmesh asked on the August 20 post: I\u2019ve been watching TD.PF.M getting hammered the last four weeks. Good rate, good reset rate and good quality company. Any thoughts on what\u2019s going there? TD.PF.M &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50710","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-issue-comments"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50710","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=50710"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50710\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50711,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50710\/revisions\/50711"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=50710"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=50710"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prefblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=50710"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}