April 15, 2016

The University of Calgary School of Public Policy has published a report titled A MAJOR SETBACK FOR RETIREMENT SAVINGS: CHANGING HOW FINANCIAL ADVISERS ARE COMPENSATED COULD HURT LESS-THANWEALTHY INVESTORS MOST:

Nevertheless, one thing arguably more problematic than clients receiving potentially conflicted advice is clients not having access to any advice at all. And based on the experience of other jurisdictions that have ordered fees to be unbundled and instead be structured as upfront fees, that is the result that ends up occurring for investors below a certain income level. In the U.K., after the decision was made to unbundle fees, the number of financial advisers fell from more than 40,000 in 2011 to just over 31,000, and has not recovered. Major banks, meanwhile, cancelled their financial advice services for clients that had only modest assets. The opening of investment accounts worth less than 100,000 pounds fell by half. After Australia required fees to be unbundled, there was a similar effect.

There is little to suggest that Canadians would not be left with the same income-related “advice gap” were regulators to require fees unbundled here. Simply put, many clients are unwilling to pay upfront for unknown results. And any reform that causes investors to separate from their advisers, or to never hire one, would be counterproductive to the public policy goals of helping Canadians better prepare for retirement. If it is adviser conflicts that regulators are worried about, there are better ways to address them — for example, the regulatory regime governing fiduciary duty and the potential to enhance the competencies, proficiency and professionalism of financial advisers — than creating a system that results in fewer people providing financial advice, and fewer people willing to seek it.

One self-styled investor advocate asks ‘Is conflicted advice better than robo advice?’, which I will assert does not just miss the point but shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how the market really works.

The alternative to a relatively high-fee mutual fund account is not a balanced ETF portfolio. The alternative to conflicted advice is not robo-advice. The default investment position of most investors with modest sums to invest – and sometimes not so modest! – is a package of GICs, bought on the advice of that nice young man at the bank who explained about ‘laddering’.

This point is actually confirmed by an opinion piece that seeks to discredit the ‘advice gap’ concept:

Consumer Panel chair Sue Lewis said: “Consumers do not always seek professional advice, even when they could benefit from it: some are not aware of what is available; they do not want to pay for advice because they do not understand the price or value of it; they cannot afford it; or they prefer to take decisions themselves.

“We would emphasise that financial advice is the same as many other professional services. People pay for professional services in other areas, such as for accountancy advice. Some people can afford this, others can’t.

“Services are accessible to those who need them at the market price.” Yet fellow consumer group Which? believes the advice gap is a real issue, given the barrier of the cost of advice.

Figures obtained by Money Marketing show that based on 1,000 UK adults with between £10,000 and £50,000 available to invest, Which? found 58 per cent of those against using an adviser cited advice as being too expensive. One-third said they would not trust an IFA to act in their best interest.

But the Which? data also suggests the demand for advice is not as high as some would believe.

The research found 67 per cent of respondents have never considered using an adviser for advice on a specific investment.

Nobody that I know of is actually arguing that there are people looking for advice who can’t get it; at least not as a significant part of the argument. At the low end, it’s all marketing, it’s all sales, it’s all about convincing somebody that they want something they haven’t really thought about before. Some of these salesmen are nasty predators. Most of them are just guys trying to provide a service and thereby make a living. As investment advisors, they’re not so hot. As conduits to get people into halfway reasonable portfolios that capture some of the equity premium and are a hell of a lot better than a package of GICs … they’re better than any alternative I’ve seen to date.

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Values are provisional and are finalized monthly
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Yield
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Median
YTW
Median
Average
Trading
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Median
Mod Dur
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Issues Day’s Perf. Index Value
Ratchet 4.74 % 5.77 % 9,475 16.95 1 0.0000 % 1,658.0
FixedFloater 6.62 % 5.72 % 20,321 16.89 1 -0.1391 % 3,054.9
Floater 4.57 % 4.71 % 55,733 16.03 4 0.0242 % 1,693.6
OpRet 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 0.0608 % 2,809.3
SplitShare 4.72 % 4.95 % 85,828 1.57 6 0.0608 % 3,287.4
Interest-Bearing 0.00 % 0.00 % 0 0.00 0 0.0608 % 2,565.0
Perpetual-Premium 5.79 % -11.32 % 90,666 0.09 6 -0.1184 % 2,588.5
Perpetual-Discount 5.53 % 5.57 % 92,714 14.55 33 -0.1747 % 2,640.4
FixedReset 5.12 % 4.58 % 178,695 13.98 87 -0.0957 % 1,988.8
Deemed-Retractible 5.18 % 5.72 % 128,677 6.84 34 -0.1463 % 2,632.3
FloatingReset 3.06 % 4.77 % 34,959 5.39 17 0.1341 % 2,078.1
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Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 11.35
Evaluated at bid price : 11.35
Bid-YTW : 4.48 %
TRP.PR.H FloatingReset -2.18 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 9.86
Evaluated at bid price : 9.86
Bid-YTW : 4.42 %
TRP.PR.D FixedReset -1.94 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 17.15
Evaluated at bid price : 17.15
Bid-YTW : 4.72 %
HSE.PR.E FixedReset -1.78 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 19.28
Evaluated at bid price : 19.28
Bid-YTW : 5.66 %
FTS.PR.J Perpetual-Discount -1.69 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 21.76
Evaluated at bid price : 22.07
Bid-YTW : 5.44 %
RY.PR.Z FixedReset -1.67 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.80
Evaluated at bid price : 18.80
Bid-YTW : 4.17 %
PWF.PR.S Perpetual-Discount -1.59 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 21.39
Evaluated at bid price : 21.70
Bid-YTW : 5.53 %
TD.PF.C FixedReset -1.48 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.69
Evaluated at bid price : 18.69
Bid-YTW : 4.18 %
RY.PR.H FixedReset -1.46 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.84
Evaluated at bid price : 18.84
Bid-YTW : 4.21 %
TD.PF.E FixedReset -1.41 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 20.96
Evaluated at bid price : 20.96
Bid-YTW : 4.31 %
TRP.PR.E FixedReset -1.37 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.00
Bid-YTW : 4.56 %
GWO.PR.M Deemed-Retractible -1.33 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 25.16
Bid-YTW : 5.78 %
CM.PR.P FixedReset -1.22 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.60
Evaluated at bid price : 18.60
Bid-YTW : 4.19 %
TD.PF.A FixedReset -1.21 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.85
Evaluated at bid price : 18.85
Bid-YTW : 4.16 %
CM.PR.Q FixedReset -1.19 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 19.87
Evaluated at bid price : 19.87
Bid-YTW : 4.44 %
CCS.PR.C Deemed-Retractible -1.17 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 22.05
Bid-YTW : 6.88 %
FTS.PR.F Perpetual-Discount -1.16 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 22.71
Evaluated at bid price : 23.00
Bid-YTW : 5.39 %
BNS.PR.Z FixedReset -1.16 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 20.51
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HSE.PR.C FixedReset -1.14 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 17.40
Evaluated at bid price : 17.40
Bid-YTW : 5.77 %
RY.PR.L FixedReset -1.07 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 24.90
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RY.PR.F Deemed-Retractible -1.04 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
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Evaluated at bid price : 24.64
Bid-YTW : 4.89 %
FTS.PR.H FixedReset -1.03 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
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Evaluated at bid price : 13.41
Bid-YTW : 4.20 %
BAM.PF.A FixedReset -1.02 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 19.40
Evaluated at bid price : 19.40
Bid-YTW : 4.84 %
SLF.PR.I FixedReset 1.01 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.00
Bid-YTW : 7.29 %
BNS.PR.R FixedReset 1.23 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 23.85
Bid-YTW : 4.05 %
BNS.PR.Q FixedReset 1.25 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 23.42
Bid-YTW : 4.14 %
GWO.PR.N FixedReset 1.28 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 13.42
Bid-YTW : 10.27 %
MFC.PR.G FixedReset 1.54 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.81
Bid-YTW : 6.93 %
SLF.PR.H FixedReset 1.54 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 16.45
Bid-YTW : 8.58 %
MFC.PR.J FixedReset 1.59 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.82
Bid-YTW : 6.71 %
MFC.PR.K FixedReset 1.64 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 18.60
Bid-YTW : 7.26 %
MFC.PR.L FixedReset 1.65 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.06
Bid-YTW : 7.03 %
MFC.PR.M FixedReset 1.72 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 20.15
Bid-YTW : 6.45 %
BNS.PR.F FloatingReset 1.73 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 19.38
Bid-YTW : 6.51 %
MFC.PR.H FixedReset 1.81 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 21.37
Bid-YTW : 6.15 %
MFC.PR.F FixedReset 1.95 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 13.61
Bid-YTW : 10.13 %
VNR.PR.A FixedReset 2.22 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.40
Evaluated at bid price : 18.40
Bid-YTW : 4.89 %
GWO.PR.O FloatingReset 2.86 % YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 12.60
Bid-YTW : 10.57 %
Volume Highlights
Issue Index Shares
Traded
Notes
RY.PR.R FixedReset 433,533 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2021-08-24
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 26.25
Bid-YTW : 4.59 %
TD.PF.G FixedReset 343,943 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2021-04-30
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 26.00
Bid-YTW : 4.58 %
BNS.PR.G FixedReset 320,383 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2021-07-25
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 26.23
Bid-YTW : 4.57 %
POW.PR.D Perpetual-Discount 188,073 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 22.15
Evaluated at bid price : 22.43
Bid-YTW : 5.60 %
TD.PR.Z FloatingReset 131,917 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 21.64
Bid-YTW : 4.81 %
SLF.PR.G FixedReset 125,341 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 13.77
Bid-YTW : 10.06 %
EML.PR.A FixedReset 124,112 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2021-04-17
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 25.55
Bid-YTW : 5.27 %
BMO.PR.W FixedReset 122,078 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.56
Evaluated at bid price : 18.56
Bid-YTW : 4.22 %
RY.PR.Q FixedReset 114,037 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2021-05-24
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 26.43
Bid-YTW : 4.66 %
NA.PR.X FixedReset 101,090 YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Call
Maturity Date : 2021-05-15
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 26.17
Bid-YTW : 4.48 %
There were 54 other index-included issues trading in excess of 10,000 shares.
Wide Spread Highlights
Issue Index Quote Data and Yield Notes
TD.PF.A FixedReset Quote: 18.85 – 19.45
Spot Rate : 0.6000
Average : 0.3773

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 18.85
Evaluated at bid price : 18.85
Bid-YTW : 4.16 %

GWO.PR.M Deemed-Retractible Quote: 25.16 – 25.80
Spot Rate : 0.6400
Average : 0.4487

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 25.16
Bid-YTW : 5.78 %

MFC.PR.H FixedReset Quote: 21.37 – 21.99
Spot Rate : 0.6200
Average : 0.4816

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 21.37
Bid-YTW : 6.15 %

SLF.PR.H FixedReset Quote: 16.45 – 16.95
Spot Rate : 0.5000
Average : 0.3646

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2025-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 16.45
Bid-YTW : 8.58 %

RY.PR.L FixedReset Quote: 24.90 – 25.25
Spot Rate : 0.3500
Average : 0.2249

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Hard Maturity
Maturity Date : 2022-01-31
Maturity Price : 25.00
Evaluated at bid price : 24.90
Bid-YTW : 4.04 %

RY.PR.M FixedReset Quote: 19.70 – 20.21
Spot Rate : 0.5100
Average : 0.3922

YTW SCENARIO
Maturity Type : Limit Maturity
Maturity Date : 2046-04-15
Maturity Price : 19.70
Evaluated at bid price : 19.70
Bid-YTW : 4.36 %

4 Responses to “April 15, 2016”

  1. gimlimike says:

    Hello James, Let me preface my comments by saying that although my feelings for financial advisers are not so warm, you have proven to be the shining light of openness and honesty when it comes to sharing your valuable research and thoughts through your website and over the years has proven to be be invaluable to me personally in navigating the complex world of preferred investing.

    Investing savvy is no different then any other type of skill , it can be purchased in the form of fee for service or learned and practiced by the individual.

    We need to make the personal decision for ourselves in the light of our own environment and regulators should only be regulating illegal, unethical actions by the supplier of advice. If an individual decides the fee is appropriate for the advice than so be it . Clarity of fees and costs are of utmost importance for that decision to be properly made and to that end up front disclosure is a must.

    Some put more research into their next vacation than their financial future so no amount of disclosure, hand holding will help these people.

    Just as advisers are required to complete a ” know your client” form investors should complete a know yourself form to make sure what path they have chosen is appropriate , then due diligence on every level is required.

    I made that decision many years ago after the frustration of fund investing with an adviser and have never regretted doing so , but be prepared to do the work then take the blame yourself for the mistakes and the credit for the wins.

    Its information that people like James Hymas make available to everyone that is a rarity , agree or disagree , relish its thoroughness and decide for yourself.

  2. stusclues says:

    Good points gimlemike. I’d also ask “when did we start to believe that investing should be easy and asset growth for retirement is a right?” In all of human history, this has never been true. Today, we have (in the developed world anyway) strong property rights, the limited liability joint stock company concept and more financial options than ever before. For those who refuse to take ownership over their own assets, the (sort of) risk-free GIC or the “conduits to halfway reasonable portfolios” are about right.

  3. malcolmm says:

    Some interesting comments here.

    I wish our education system provided students with a better grounding in financial basics. The first step would be to train some teachers in basic financial principles so they can pass the knowledge on.

    I’m often amazed at the level of financial knowledge that most people have, even people with some quite substantial financial assets. Where I live, in Vancouver many people have become quite wealthy through real estate. But they know almost nothing about investing unless it involves real estate.

    Even when it comes to real estate, the level of financial knowledge is often very poor. I was recently talking to a friend about real estate prices in Vancouver (which I view as a bubble). My friend assured me that there was no risk of a real estate crash in Vancouver because if prices started to decline people would simply refuse to accept the lower prices, they instead hold onto their property. If only it were so simple.

  4. after says:

    Fascinating stuff..
    1) there is a mag called walrus , mentioning the van housing market.
    2) regarding the halfway reasonable portfolio, I find it hard to understsnd paying (as I understand it) 1-2 % to get 6-7 % for myself…maybe, while losing zzzs thinking that markets can and have gone down multiples of that 6-7 %…meaning the investor has to wait for years to be back above water…just all my opinion here…if there is something I’ve missed, please tell me !

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